tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post7636034162096740095..comments2023-12-24T14:46:48.637+00:00Comments on AIF Central: SNEEZE Comp AnnouncementEditorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00066658284792225666noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-8314569590010261222015-07-03T00:46:20.198+01:002015-07-03T00:46:20.198+01:00Oh, if you want anything sent out as a special not...Oh, if you want anything sent out as a special notice on the AIF Archive send it to me and I'll do it for you (you have to be a moderator to do that).BBBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531745894546434442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-43300845517963899172015-07-02T17:36:24.042+01:002015-07-02T17:36:24.042+01:00Thanks!Thanks!Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-67197213884682262932015-06-29T15:47:59.322+01:002015-06-29T15:47:59.322+01:00Could I make a suggestion? Put the deadline date u...Could I make a suggestion? Put the deadline date up the top of the post, in large text - also, keep reminding people about the comp, and the deadline. Post reminders on forums and stuff. I've promoted these comps before and that's pretty important.BBBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531745894546434442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-35509258352916044482015-06-29T04:41:36.224+01:002015-06-29T04:41:36.224+01:00Regardless of when either comps are help I would b...Regardless of when either comps are help I would be happy to make game for both even if they are both run at the same time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-82864429482633590472015-06-18T04:17:02.262+01:002015-06-18T04:17:02.262+01:00@LT
I think I understand better where you are com...@LT<br /><br />I think I understand better where you are coming from. Yes, I know I did say six months after the minicomp. I guess what I meant to say was that I'd make sure the time didn't overlap so that it conflicted with the minicomp. It was simply difficult for me to wait until December to announce it, when it would be long out of my memory and I'd out of enthusiasm, and I didn't (and I still don't) see the issue with simply pushing the deadline back when the minicomp is announced.<br /><br />The truth is I wasn't actively conscious of when the minicomp is held each year, so it's not so much me wanting to have the comp while the minicomp was on, but rather wanting to get the comp done while the idea was fresh. The organizers of the minicomp being too polite to interrupt my comp was something I honestly hadn't considered at all. If the minicomp was cancelled for my benefit, I would feel fucking awful. So I hope they'll continue to announce it when it's best for them.<br /><br />Also, on a side note, I'd still be willing to organize the minicomp, but I don't want to jump the gun because an announcement may yet be coming.Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-48501556281544329572015-06-17T22:52:39.757+01:002015-06-17T22:52:39.757+01:00"at the same time as the minicomp"
One ..."at the same time as the minicomp"<br /><br />One thing that should be pointed out is that the Minicomp doesn't have a 'time'. It's typically been held some time in June or July, but it's been all over the map (the below list shows the end of the voting period for each year):<br /><br />2006 - April 21<br />2007 - May 11<br />2008 - June 16<br />2009 - June 23<br />2010 - June 25<br />2011 - June 3<br />2012 - July 31<br />2013 - July 10<br />2014 - July 31<br /><br />That said, if the Minicomp was going to be held this year at its 'usual' time it should already have been announced.<br /><br />I take two conclusions from that. The first is that there's no guarantee that the Minicomp would have even been held this year, even without competition. The second is that there's no reason that the Minicomp can't be held at some other time of the year.ExLibrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06970890247172962853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-51898956939367597212015-06-17T21:29:41.936+01:002015-06-17T21:29:41.936+01:00I apologize for sounding belligerent. I speak blun...I apologize for sounding belligerent. I speak bluntly. I think your idea for the Sneeze comp is a great idea. I want it to be successful. I will even enter it if I can find the time. But I very much enjoy participating in the minicomp, and I am frustrated by your insistence on holding your comp right now despite my repeated warnings that doing so undermines the minicomp.<br /><br />It was clear from the beginning that you wanted to hold your comp at the same time as the minicomp. I told you that doing so would be bad for the minicomp. You said not to worry because you would hold yours six months after the minicomp. I was happy with that. Then you immediately turned around afterwards and scheduled your comp at the same time as the minicomp anyway.<br /><br />The unintended consequences of that is that there will be no minicomp. The minicomp isn't organized by a faceless corporation. There are literally a handful of people with the stature needed to organize the minicomp. You know all of them. You are one of them. All of you are really nice people. It doesn't matter how many times you say that you're willing to move your comp for the minicomp. Everyone can see how eager you are to hold your Sneeze comp and wants it to be a success. Now that you've scheduled your Sneeze comp, none of those people will cockblock your comp by organizing the minicomp at the same time. I certainly couldn't organize the minicomp now without looking like a dick.<br /><br />It's too late now though. We've both poisoned the well so much that even if you move your Sneeze comp, no one can organize the minicomp for the summer without looking like an asshole. Unless you're willing to organize the minicomp too, the Sneeze comp is this year's AIF comp. That's fine with me. The Sneeze comp will be a good comp. Lost Trouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521252117711471787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-75808463609806459132015-06-16T19:58:39.734+01:002015-06-16T19:58:39.734+01:00True! If it goes well there's no reason it ca...True! If it goes well there's no reason it can't be re-run to oppose minicomp with a new theme. Choice-games are a whole lot less of a time commitment so perhaps this will entice a steady flow. And since no adult comp offers prizes of any tangible kind, what does it matter which one your game wins?Hanonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14545045515532487079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-84681369536215840942015-06-16T04:14:10.286+01:002015-06-16T04:14:10.286+01:00Great idea, thx to wannabe for organizing. I like ...Great idea, thx to wannabe for organizing. I like the idea of minicomp in summer and SNEEZE in winter rather than overlapping.Anna.Nee.Mossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-84089750572963669562015-06-15T19:32:55.277+01:002015-06-15T19:32:55.277+01:00@LT
If someone sent me such an entry, if there...@LT<br /><br />If someone sent me such an entry, if there's such an issue I'd probably send it back and give them time to fix it. If not, yes, it would be disqualified. I don't think that's unreasonable.<br /><br />Also, I'm a writer and a consumer of AIF and fiction in general, and that's the perspective I take. If you find any of the rules especially demanding, or if you sense I'm "talking down" to writers, please let me know. Actually, the rules are designed so that many writers leave the comp with recognition -- 1st, 2nd or 3rd place, and six honorable mentions that 1st place can't win.<br /><br />ALSO, I submitted drafts of the contest rules to the entire community so they could comment on it before I went ahead with the comp. Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-14628184129061748352015-06-15T19:07:51.415+01:002015-06-15T19:07:51.415+01:00@Spike
That's exactly right. "Unfinished...@Spike<br /><br />That's exactly right. "Unfinished hooks" is actually a better word to use, and I'll update accordingly.<br /><br />Just some context to why I made this rule, when I made my CYOA game, I found that often I'd forget to link one passage to another, and so the game would randomly end at certain points. Such a rule just ensures that the games are actually playable, and that the authors do a minimal amount of playtesting to make sure everything links right.<br /><br />So it's OK to have a game finish on an end-state, like you die or have irreparably ruined your date or the player just decides to walk off into the sunset. It's not OK for the game to just suddenly hang up because the author forgot to link something.Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-84812831951817511212015-06-15T18:52:09.239+01:002015-06-15T18:52:09.239+01:00Lost Trout, you're being totally irrational. I...Lost Trout, you're being totally irrational. I already stated -->clearly<-- that I'd be willing to push any deadlines so that people can do both, DIRECTLY addressing your concerns. It's like no matter what I say, you just WANT to distrust me. When or if the Minicomp is announced, I'll adjust the deadline accordingly so people can easily do both.<br /><br />Please, the AIF community is very civil as internet communities go. Please don't be needlessly belligerent. If you have any legit beef with me, then I'll do my best to address those concerns.Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-83760815742665063802015-06-14T22:04:05.477+01:002015-06-14T22:04:05.477+01:00I think that simply aw had this idea now, maybe it...I think that simply aw had this idea now, maybe it would have been better to do this for example in February, but it's difficult to wait so many months and maybe the interest will be less after months.<br />For the minicomp the problem is that for now there isn't an organizer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-80688302783447926592015-06-14T21:11:18.764+01:002015-06-14T21:11:18.764+01:00@Trout
Correct me if I am wrong AW, but this mean...@Trout<br /><br />Correct me if I am wrong AW, but this means you can't leave UNFINISHED hooks of the story. It doesn't mean you can't have questions in your story, branches, or freedom to write what you want.<br /><br />From what I gather, here is an example:<br />You make a story. It has two options early on...<br />1) Shoot the man and run<br />2) Flee the scene<br /><br />You can have option 2 ending the game early because he shoots you in the back. You can have option 2 leading to another direction based on this choice. You CANNOT have option 2 simply hang the game up. <br /><br />In other words, if I picked to flee the scene, you can't have it neither end nor continue the story --- it can't just stop suddenly (ie "Ok, you flee the scene" without any other options or ending the game appropriately).<br /><br />Now I could be way off, but all it seems to mean is that each choice has to do something, not force the player to go back and pick something else because it was an unfinished option.SpikeTheGoatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-11826073971733482902015-06-14T16:25:21.181+01:002015-06-14T16:25:21.181+01:00"You should avoid too many rules"
There..."You should avoid too many rules"<br /><br />There are 5 rules in total and one of them (theme) is stated as being entirely optional. Creating AIF game that isn't broken and contains sex should be common sense so basically all a game has to do/be to comply is a CYOA game with 1000 - 25000 words.Ifritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-13633989481634656582015-06-14T05:23:52.642+01:002015-06-14T05:23:52.642+01:00You seem to have done the exact opposite of what y...You seem to have done the exact opposite of what you said you would do. The minicomp always happens in late spring and summer. You've scheduled your comp to take place over the summer, so the two comps overlap.<br /><br />If you think the minicomp has died and you want to replace it with this, then just say that.Lost Trouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521252117711471787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-92096813679027720192015-06-14T05:19:02.663+01:002015-06-14T05:19:02.663+01:00If someone submits a game with a loose end, will y...If someone submits a game with a loose end, will you kick the game out of the contest? If not, remove the rule.<br /><br />You should avoid too many rules. I find contest rules written from the perspective of readers to be offputting. Rules from a reader's perspective sounds entitled to me. Like someone dictating how I should write. As if I should feel grateful that a reader would spend five minutes playing a game that I put in weeks crafting for their benefit. The rules should be written to be inviting and inspirational to authors. Lost Trouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521252117711471787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-64819356493042966472015-06-12T17:09:33.069+01:002015-06-12T17:09:33.069+01:00Yeah, first one. Basically, there should be no loo...Yeah, first one. Basically, there should be no loose ends where the player can't continue when they obviously should be able to. So if the player does something stupid and dies at the midpoint, that's fine, but if the player selects a dialogue choice and the author never wrote a way to get back to the main branch, that's not ok.<br /><br />Sorry, the rule is a little vague.Another Wannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035464886721284173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-33845342758061407382015-06-12T01:47:42.484+01:002015-06-12T01:47:42.484+01:00I'd interpret that as the first option - you c...I'd interpret that as the first option - you can't have choices that just don't go anywhere.BBBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531745894546434442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-85024999773176146692015-06-12T00:59:08.011+01:002015-06-12T00:59:08.011+01:00Game should be complete. That is, you should be ab...<i>Game should be complete. That is, you should be able to play from beginning to end, with no choices that are loose ends.</i><br /><br />I'm not sure what this means. Are you saying that a game cannot have choices that don't go anywhere (the game is incomplete) or that everything has to end up at the same place (no multiple ending possibilities)?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574140902345931882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1487842286207042981.post-11984482476846068182015-06-11T17:18:28.400+01:002015-06-11T17:18:28.400+01:00You need to update the link in aif reddit.
XXXYou need to update the link in aif reddit. <br /><br />XXXAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com